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Sunday, February 18, 2007

Carlos Mencia - busted onstage!

All right, this'll take a second, so have a seat. I do not know what is going on in the comedy clubs in L.A., but seriously, people are losing their GOTdam minds lately.

First, the whole Michael Richards thing. Then Damon Wayans went nuts. Then Andy Dick. Then Anthony Michael Hall. ANTHONY MICHAEL HALL? Is he even a comedian? Or a celebrity? Whatever. Like I said, one comedian after another is going insane in a crazy bad way in front of a paying audience.

The latest thing happened this week where a comedian basically confronted another comedian onstage at the Comedy Store, because he was accusing him of stealing his (and everyone else's) jokes.

Stealing jokes? Is that a crime? In comedian circles, yes it is, bigtime. You see, comedians can't really copywright jokes and there's no way to really prevent someone from just taking your jokes and claiming them as their own. So, it's a HUGE no-no to steal someone else's material.

Now, of course, stealing jokes is hardly new. Robin Williams is generally regarded as the master of joke stealing, to the point that most comedians will stop performing immediately if he ever walks into a club while they're onstage. Other accusations have been leveled at Denis Leary and Dane Cook, and if you really want to read an excellent article on the history of joke stealing, check out this great round-up from Radar. One highlight is this great graphic representation:



NOW! You may see that the last person referenced in the above graphic is Carlos Mencia. That's right, the guy from Comedy Central. It turns out that many comedians consider him to be as bad as Robin Williams, if not worse. However, there's a catch.

"The twist that Carlos Mencia puts on most of the jokes that he steals is that he somehow makes them all unfunny." said one comedian. "It's almost genius, in a way."

Things have gotten so bad between all the other comics and Mencia that he has been given the nickname "Carlos Menstealia". George Lopez was so mad at Mencia for stealing 13 minutes of his material for Mencia's HBO special that he beat the crap out of him backstage at the Comedy Store.

Which brings us to last Saturday night. Joe Rogan, host of Fear Factor and a comedian well known to be a believer in the no-stealing rule, had just finished his set at the Comedy Store, and was about to introduce the next act who was a comedian who had done some opening gigs for Mencia. Rogan uses "Menstealia" when referring to Mencia in the intro, and uh oh, Mencia is in the audience. Mencia comes onstage to confront Rogan, which may have been his worst mistake yet.



I'll let Joe Rogan take it from here. Go read this and then come back here to get the rest of the story. Below is the video of what comes next.



Now could this have been handled in a better fashion? Sure. Did Rogan have to be such a dick about it? Hey, all comedians are dicks, trust me. But what has been the outcome of this display? Has Mencia suffered as a result of all this?

Nope. In fact, the other way around. First, Rogan was banned from The Comedy Store. Then, in a moment of extreme turnabout, his agent, who is also Mencia's agent, was forced to drop him as a client, because Mencia said he would walk if Rogan did not apologize to him for this. Rogan refused, and now he's agentless.

And that, my friends, is just another exciting day in Hollywood. We'll have to see if Joe's integrity is worth what he's about to go through. As for the Mind of Mencia, he's headlining the Comedy Store this weekend.

There is no such thing as irony in show business.

24 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why does Carlos Mencia have his own show? Why?

2/23/2007 4:15 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cuz he is da sg*t, this is a common joke based upon current events that many comedians have made, so why put the blame on carlos only?! cuz hes the best, how many people didnt know this ari guy existed until this!? many! So its wut ever leave him be

3/18/2008 11:28 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey, second anonymous guy, you're a tasteless shitbag with no logic.

7/23/2008 7:51 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i agree with 3rd anonymous guy. i'm shocked rogan was so calm about it. mencia (or whatever his real name is - f**kin' thief) should've gotten his ass kicked again and his jaw busted so we wouldn't have to hear anymore of his obviously plagiarized material

8/05/2008 12:15 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

honestly, even if mencia wasn't stealing his material; he's still the worst comedian i've ever seen. i can't even fake a chuckle to any of his acts. tell you what mencia audience; give me a tv show. i'll bounce a red ball in front of the camera for twenty minutes, then randomly i'll shout CRACKER! you'll laugh so hard you'll pee yourselves.
read a book

1/13/2009 3:36 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Carlos" is a talentless hack that only appeals to retards.

2/21/2009 2:03 PM

 
Anonymous Sean the terrorist said...

I have said this to my friends since day one! Carlos Mencia is not funny and unoriginal, this is undeniable proof. And second anonymous guy is a tasteless shitbag.

Allow me to re-create every single one of Carlos Menstealia's jokes: blah blah blah, black people, blah blah blah, mexicans, blah blah, white people, beaner beaner beaner! GO CHOKE ON A COCK YOU TALENTLESS CHODE!!!

4/09/2009 1:00 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow after watching that I respect South Parks Carlos Manstealia's episode a lot more, I thought they ripped on Kanye, wow. Carlos SUCKS

4/12/2009 12:13 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who cares about George Lopez, he isn't even close to funny. He actually sucks complete ass. Taking a shit is more exciting than listening to George Lopez or Joe Rogan. Who the fuck pays to see either of these guys?

5/06/2009 8:46 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8th anonymous u suck. im as mexican as they come n i hate carlos mencia. he aint funny and sean is rite on the money with the mencia comedy formula. do us all a favor n walk over a cliff 8th anonymous. also at least rogan and lopez dont have to steal jokes. its the principle that counts.

5/07/2009 5:28 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

carlos mencia is not funny at all, the only reason why i thought his show was funny was because of the little clips/movies he showed. he wasnt funny at all. he didnt do jack sh*t. And one time i watched his special for 30 seconds and turned off the tv and almost put a gun in my mouth. As for dane cook he is the sh*t he is extremely funny and i would never ever blame him of joke stealing. he is very creative. carlos mencia is a perfect example of a twit and george lopez had the right to beat the crap out of him. if any one thinks carlos menstealia is funny. u should not be able to have babies for the reason of idiocracy in the future

5/18/2009 7:20 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i am anonymous 11: also he is VERY unoriginal with the de de de. I think i made that up when i was 3 months old. he killed that joke so hard that when ever i hear him say it i want to stab him. if any one thinks he's funny: watch gabriel inglesis. he's actually funny. and if u think george lopez is not funny. i have no faith left in humanity

5/18/2009 7:26 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kind of funny that George Lopez complained about Mencia stealing his jokes...when the supposedly theft of the Taco Bell joke was stolen by Lopez initially from comedian Ted Sarnowski who DID give permission to Mencia to use it...you know what they say about glass ceilings...

8/01/2009 7:39 PM

 
Anonymous R McAdam said...

firstly i dont like how this article seems almost biased against joe. Surely by him refusing to apologise and lose his 'integrity' as it is put, then he feels his beliefs are more important than having a contract and a 'reputation'. In all fairness this is what we all should & would do. No one likes having their ideas stole, even if its just a joke, its the princible. Although jokes cannot be stored under copyright laws im sure that intellectual property rights comes into the situation in one way or another. If they dont, then i stand corrected, but the fact of the matter is still the same. Stealing jokes does not make you talented, it can only appear to make you seem witty or comical because of a loop hole in the sense that jokes cannot be claimed to be invented or created by someone in particular. Thats my point, and hopefully if i understand how joe feels thats his point too. Not saying that i do, thats just my interpritation of his view. please dont comment back saying how my view sucks ect. its my opinion, and im entitled to it just like you are entitled to yours.

P.s sorry about the lenth of this lol

11/14/2009 4:56 PM

 
Blogger Andrew said...

dude these comments are 10x funnier than any of the fools will ever be!!!!! In fact, I think I'm gonna steal a little off of "anonymous" on me way out...

2/23/2010 4:24 PM

 
Anonymous Laura said...

Damn. Joe Rogan blasted Mencia! It's been a while since I've watched Mind of Mencia, but I don't remember it being particularly bad. As for him stealing jokes, I doubt the entire comedy community would band together and lie about one comic like that, so yeah, he probably did steal jokes. But people saying that Dane Cook and Gabriel Iglesias are funny? "fluffy" is just as annoying as "dee dee de" and frankly, I feel like I've heard all of his fat jokes before. Seriously. Dane Cook is just.. wow. I can't even find a bad enough adjective to describe him. GLo? George is ok. His stuff is HILARIOUS the first time, but does get old quickly. I'd say he's the best out of the comics mentioned though and I'd still watch him over any of the others (mentioned).

So in the end, Mencia steals jokes, Lopez is funny, rest aren't. Though I do want to look up Ari now. I guess I just don't care since I'm not a comedian. I just wanna sit and laugh, what do I care where the jokes come from?

3/27/2010 3:25 AM

 
Blogger Anthony said...

shut the f*** up 4th anonymous guy carlos is not the only one who has done this...... you probobly steal jokes from your wife when your joking around with your friends at your desk job you faggot....... joe rogan and people like you are whats wrong with america..... you cant laugh at somthing that was designed to make you laugh you senseless peice of s***. and third anonymous guy..... your just gay and your the shitbag with no taste if you like joe rogan you surferboy bitch

4/09/2010 7:27 PM

 
Blogger Anthony said...

sean the terrorist your a talentless shitbag who sits on his fat ass all day watching gay porn while tweezeing your dick you chode

4/09/2010 7:30 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anthony- Hope you managed to finish that infantile blathering before Mommy and Daddy got home. You might get grounded and miss your next cub scout meeting if they knew their darling little child was an internet tough guy. Poor, sad little guy. So desperate to make people think you are an adult.

9/23/2010 5:07 PM

 
Anonymous Mike B said...

Anybody who thinks carlos mencia is funny or original is a total dumbfuck and needs to be spayed and/or neutered so they can't spread there retarded genes, he stole from bill cosby, he stole from ari, he stole from george lopez, AND he admitted to stealing and said that if you say anything funny and I hear it I'm going to take it and make it my own, also dane cook? His retaliation album was the only funny shit he's done, he also steals jokes, why don't you be fuckin smart and read up on the subject before u start talking shit u dumb bastards, why don't u watch somebody who's actually FUNNY and ORIGINAL like Mitch hedberg or steve byrne or kyle dunnigan or nick swardson when ever I even catch a glipse of carlos or dane on tv I change the channel immediately and feel like I want to vomit.

11/30/2011 1:25 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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5/31/2012 9:45 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who thinks any of these guys use original material is an idiot. They all borrow from someone else then hate on the guy who make the most money doing it!!

8/28/2012 10:12 AM

 
Blogger Nick Cook said...

ive known who ari shaffir is for a VERY long time, and he's extremely funny! if you dont know who ari is then your not a fan of comedy, you probably just watch the mainstream guys with one hour specials on HBO, and comedy central! i am a young stand up comedian, ive only been doing it for about a year, but ive seen this first hand.. and its not good.. the only way you can see that these guys steal most of their jokes (Mainly Mencia, and Cook) is if you're a true comdey fan and know of more comics than the five big ones you see on tv. Dane Cook uses 2-3 of Louis Ck's jokes almost word for word. he also has taken and used both joe rogans jokes and jim bruers jokes, again verbatim. and carlos mencia has used, provable, Bobby Lees, Joe Rogan, Ari Shaffir, George Lopez, Brian Redban, and Many others material. again almost word for word...

as somebody on the outside, you wont get, cant get it... these guys are all great performers, thats why its so hard to see it. but not original, and cant write for themselves.

12/05/2013 2:26 PM

 
Blogger Nick Cook said...

and mike b... you obviously have a good sense of comedy man! love mitch hedberg, actually like all the guys you've mentioned! good on ya!

12/05/2013 2:29 PM

 

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